Comments on: Smart Clients: ReverseHTTP & WebSockets

By: Ruby & WebSockets: TCP for the Browser - igvita.com

Ruby & WebSockets: TCP for the Browser - igvita.com — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:39:19 +0000

[...] communication between the browser and the server: AJAX, Comet & HTTP Streaming, BOSH, ReverseHTTP, WebHooks & PubSubHubbub, and Flash sockets amongst many others. Having said that, it does not take [...]

By: jon

jon — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:41:53 +0000

Take a look at “STUN” (stateful-traversal using NAT).

By: John

John — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:28:31 +0000

Hey, that’s a clear sign, can’t you see? We are trying to push beyond HTTP’s capabilities. Indeed, we did it. It’s a sign that today’s web apps are still building upon the wrong foundation: HTTP and HTML. Instead of wasting our time struggling to create ugly workarounds (like ReverseHTTP), let’s start thinking and developing a new foundation for web apps. Something that completely drops HTTP/HTML/Javascript and so on. We need something new, something appropriate.

By: Ilya Grigorik

Ilya Grigorik — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:54:39 +0000

Sam, touche. ;-) Having said that, not aware of single operating deployment of rss cloud. At least PSHB now has Google behind it.

Heiner: I can appreciate the XMPP architecture - in fact, I’m a big fan. The only problem I see with it is the entry barrier the extra infrastructure and XML parsing it requires to make anything work. I think Google App Engine is a great example of how far you can take simple HTTP interactions in the context of pubsub, queues, etc.

Kunthar: P2P search is a really interesting topic with lots of interesting research. I’m exploring it right now, will report if I find anything insightful. If you have any recommendations, would love to hear them (in terms of papers, sites, etc.)

By: Kunthar

Kunthar — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:18:30 +0000

I imagine a distributed P2P search engine rather then Google centric approach. Data is everywhere, searches are everywhere. What you say on this guys?

By: Heiner Wolf

Heiner Wolf — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:25:43 +0000

Great: add a second one way channel with extra TCP connections to the browser. If Opera is really into bi-directional communication, then why not use XMPP. XMPP has everything they need, including routing and it’s the base of Google Wave by the way. Ah, yes, we like HTTP because it is so simple and powerful. And it goes through firewalls. Truth is: you do not know XMPP. You are too much into HTTP.

By: Sam

Sam — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:10:54 +0000

Ilya: rssClouds is *not* brand new. Dave Winer himself says, “The first rssClouds were implemented in 2001 in Manila and Radio UserLand, two products from my company, UserLand Software. All three sides of the protocol were implemented.” (http://rsscloud.org/#briefHistory) Just FYI

By: opera user

opera user — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:33:44 +0000

so, in short, opera has led the way once more — wtg opera.

By: David Banes

David Banes — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:28:38 +0000

XMPP is here, now, works and handles most things you’ll need. What could be neater than pub-sub using routed XML?

By: 通过ReverseHTTP和WebSocket实现更智能的客户端 « 每日IT新闻，最新IT资讯，聚合多站点消息，保证你与世界同步

通过ReverseHTTP和WebSocket实现更智能的客户端 « 每日IT新闻，最新IT资讯，聚合多站点消息，保证你与世界同步 — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:28:21 +0000

[...] 5 WebSocket API和ReverseHTTP协议，让客户端/浏览器共同负担服务器的压力。ReverseHTTP协议是在非服务器主机和服务器主机之间建立双向的链接；HTML 5 [...]