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	<title>Comments on: SSMTP Relay &amp; Mail Delivery in Rails</title>
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		<title>By: SamuraiDio &#187; Usando sSMTP com GMail para enviar emails no Debian</title>
		<link>http://www.igvita.com/2007/08/29/ssmtp-relay-mail-delivery-in-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-111264</link>
		<dc:creator>SamuraiDio &#187; Usando sSMTP com GMail para enviar emails no Debian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Glenn Rempe</title>
		<link>http://www.igvita.com/2007/08/29/ssmtp-relay-mail-delivery-in-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-101498</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Rempe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.  Your comments are appreciated.  I think ar_mailer is more in the direction of what my particular app needs (I am setting up a group of Joyent accelerators via Capistrano, so I am trying to get as many services out in the cloud as I can so as to avoid complicating the system setup requirements and support reliable scaling).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.  Your comments are appreciated.  I think ar_mailer is more in the direction of what my particular app needs (I am setting up a group of Joyent accelerators via Capistrano, so I am trying to get as many services out in the cloud as I can so as to avoid complicating the system setup requirements and support reliable scaling).</p>
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		<title>By: Ilya Grigorik</title>
		<link>http://www.igvita.com/2007/08/29/ssmtp-relay-mail-delivery-in-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-101477</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilya Grigorik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn, the upside to using SSMTP is that you're transparently changing the behavior of sendmail system-wide. Hence, this also takes care of sending out cron reports, etc., and eliminates additional band-aid code in your Rails app. Having said that, if all you want is to send mail from your controllers, then functionally, these approaches are equivalent.

Also, SSMTP is a synchronous send, so more likely than not, you will experience the problems you've described if something happens to GMail's servers. If you want reliable delivery, I would look into postfix, or ar_mailer, as Kevin suggested!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn, the upside to using SSMTP is that you&#8217;re transparently changing the behavior of sendmail system-wide. Hence, this also takes care of sending out cron reports, etc., and eliminates additional band-aid code in your Rails app. Having said that, if all you want is to send mail from your controllers, then functionally, these approaches are equivalent.</p>
<p>Also, SSMTP is a synchronous send, so more likely than not, you will experience the problems you&#8217;ve described if something happens to GMail&#8217;s servers. If you want reliable delivery, I would look into postfix, or ar_mailer, as Kevin suggested!</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Rempe</title>
		<link>http://www.igvita.com/2007/08/29/ssmtp-relay-mail-delivery-in-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-101453</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Rempe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kevin

Thanks for that tip about ar_mailer.  I will definitely look into that!</description>
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<p>Thanks for that tip about ar_mailer.  I will definitely look into that!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Ansfield</title>
		<link>http://www.igvita.com/2007/08/29/ssmtp-relay-mail-delivery-in-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-101450</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Ansfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn: It may be worth looking into something like ar_mailer (http://dev.robotcoop.com/Tools/) as well as this will speed up your front-end interface when sending e-mail because all it needs to do is drop the mail into a database table ready to be sent by a background process.

It will also keep retrying until the external mail server is contactable and accepts the mail for delivery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn: It may be worth looking into something like ar_mailer (http://dev.robotcoop.com/Tools/) as well as this will speed up your front-end interface when sending e-mail because all it needs to do is drop the mail into a database table ready to be sent by a background process.</p>
<p>It will also keep retrying until the external mail server is contactable and accepts the mail for delivery.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Rempe</title>
		<link>http://www.igvita.com/2007/08/29/ssmtp-relay-mail-delivery-in-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-101448</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Rempe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you please comment on the benefits of this approach vs. something like this:

http://www.rubyinside.com/how-to-use-gmails-smtp-server-with-rails-394.html

I am currently using a plugin that lets my rails app directly talk to Gmail's smtp servers using TLS (which base rails in incapable of doing).

My concern with this synchronous approach though is that my app will hang waiting for gmails smtp servers if for some reason they become temporarily unavailable.

Does the ssmtp approach return immediately from the perspective of the rails app, and then handle the slow external communication with an offsite smtp server like gmails on its own?  This would be a nice way to decouple my rails app from the smtp service.

Does ssmtp do any retries if it can't send on the first try?

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you please comment on the benefits of this approach vs. something like this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rubyinside.com/how-to-use-gmails-smtp-server-with-rails-394.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rubyinside.com/how-to-use-gmails-smtp-server-with-rails-394.html</a></p>
<p>I am currently using a plugin that lets my rails app directly talk to Gmail&#8217;s smtp servers using TLS (which base rails in incapable of doing).</p>
<p>My concern with this synchronous approach though is that my app will hang waiting for gmails smtp servers if for some reason they become temporarily unavailable.</p>
<p>Does the ssmtp approach return immediately from the perspective of the rails app, and then handle the slow external communication with an offsite smtp server like gmails on its own?  This would be a nice way to decouple my rails app from the smtp service.</p>
<p>Does ssmtp do any retries if it can&#8217;t send on the first try?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Ilya Grigorik</title>
		<link>http://www.igvita.com/2007/08/29/ssmtp-relay-mail-delivery-in-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-90230</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilya Grigorik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, don't quote me on this, but the TLS protocol &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Sockets_Layer" rel="nofollow"&gt;should take care of this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, don&#8217;t quote me on this, but the TLS protocol <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Sockets_Layer" rel="nofollow">should take care of this</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.igvita.com/2007/08/29/ssmtp-relay-mail-delivery-in-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-90012</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ilya, I am a former user of ssmtp who moved to msmtp when it appeared that development of ssmtp had stalled. Are there any security issues with the storage of username and password with ssmtp and with its transmission of these to Gmail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ilya, I am a former user of ssmtp who moved to msmtp when it appeared that development of ssmtp had stalled. Are there any security issues with the storage of username and password with ssmtp and with its transmission of these to Gmail?</p>
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		<title>By: Ilya Grigorik</title>
		<link>http://www.igvita.com/2007/08/29/ssmtp-relay-mail-delivery-in-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-67812</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilya Grigorik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 13:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, sure there is - create a cron job to rotate a set of configuration files!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, sure there is - create a cron job to rotate a set of configuration files!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 10:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google suggests alternating between several accounts to stack up the 500 message limits.

Is there a way to do that with this method? It seems you're locked into the one account since you put those details in the ssmtp.conf file. I don't suppose there's a way to override this periodically?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google suggests alternating between several accounts to stack up the 500 message limits.</p>
<p>Is there a way to do that with this method? It seems you&#8217;re locked into the one account since you put those details in the ssmtp.conf file. I don&#8217;t suppose there&#8217;s a way to override this periodically?</p>
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